Jan 092015
 
This entry is part 12 of 14 in the series Gay Marriage

Boy oh boy, did I get a surprise phone call Monday. I live in Tampa, just south of Pasco County, and Monday morning I faxed a letter to Paula O’Neil, Pasco Clerk of Court about their discontinuing performing marriage ceremonies in deference to the bigotry of some of her assistant clerks. You can read the letter here.

About 3PM, I got a phone call from Ms. O’Neil. My letter had raised concerns with her, and of course, she started with the “misquoted and out of context meme,” and asked if she could elaborate. I was impressed that she called, and that we spent 45 minutes discussing the issue.

First, I will concede that the article, as is often the case, did publish some comments of Ms O’Neil out of context…big surprise, but she did, after some prodding admit that, while dropping this service had been under consideration for a few years because of budget cuts, it was the gay marriage issue, and the concerns of some of her staff (who came to her “in tears saying they just couldn’t do it”).

Paula O'Neil, Pasco Clerk and Comptroller

Paula O’Neil, Pasco Clerk and Comptroller

I put it to her this way, “Ms. O’Neil, if one or more of your assistant clerks ever came to you and said they just couldn’t conduct a ceremony for an interracial couple, that it just went against their personal beliefs, would you condone that or accommodate it in any way…would you have stopped performing all ceremonies because of that?” She said no, of course not. I asked her to explain to me the difference, from a civil and constitutional rights perspective, the difference between an interracial marriage and a same-sex marriage. After some sidestepping, and then a long pause she said, “I can’t, and now that you’ve presented it that way, I can see why this is a problem and why people would see it as discrimination.” She said she never meant to discriminate, but I explained there was no way it could be viewed as anything else. I really didn’t let her off the hook, and she really didn’t argue or try to make excuses.

I reminded her of the story  of the southern cities that filled in municipal pools rather than allow African-American Children to swim in them, and said, “Whether you meant to or not, you just backed up the cement truck and hit the dump lever, and that will be your legacy and that of Pasco County 100 years from now.

To her credit, I think she now understands the harm and damage she’s done, and has since gotten permission to waive the three-day waiting period, and had notaries and judges available at the Courthouse those first days to handle anyone wanting to be married there. It was the best we could come up with to try to mitigate the damage.

I have to give Ms O’Neil credit for being willing to have a very civil discussion, present her side, and listen fully to my side, and try to arrive at a reasonable remedy.

So I call that a good day.

Jan 042015
 
This entry is part 11 of 14 in the series Gay Marriage

Paula O'Neil Pasco ClerkSame-sex marriage has arrived in Florida a midst great wailing and gnashing  of teeth. While arriving sooner than expected, it wasn’t an easy delivery thanks to the political aspirations of our twice married and living in sin Attorney General, Pam Bondi. However, some Court Clerks are doing all they can to prove that, despite having to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, they still hate gay people as much as ever.

They’re doing this in several counties by deciding to no longer provide solemnization ceremonies in the Clerk’s office. This is a non-mandated service that’s been traditionally provided, but since, if they provide it to straight people, they’d have to provide it to same-sex couples, they have elected to discontinue the service. One of the counties making that choice is the county just north of Tampa, Pasco County, and their Clerk, Paula O’Neil offered the money quote, “”The problem is we can’t discriminate…”1

As I am wont to do, I’ve prepared a letter to fax to Ms. O’Neil, and since she’s a public official, we’ll consider it an open letter.

Paula S. O’Neil, Clerk & Comptroller
38053 Live Oak Avenue
Dade City, FL 33523-3894

Dear Ms O’Neil:

It was with a great deal of interest that I read your statements from a Tampa Bay Times article of January 2, 2015.

Let me ask you a question. Were I visiting Pasco County, and violated some law or regulation, would I avoid prosecution and accountability if I claimed that violating the law was based on a “consciously held religious belief,” or if it simply made me “uncomfortable?” Or, is that particular “get out of jail free card” explicitly for people who happen to think that LGBT people are icky, and/or are court officials in your office?

If one of your Clerks had ever come to you (or did) saying they were “uncomfortable” conducting services for people who had been divorced, or multi-racial couples, would you have given them a pass from performing their duties.

You see Ms O’Neil, we both know this is not based on some biblical understanding of marriage. Trust me, I can refute every single verse your Clerks might offer for justifying their hate for LGBT people. Some knowledge of Greek and the context of the times goes a long way to an intelligent understanding of the Bible.

However, we know that this bigotry really isn’t about the biblical view of marriage. Otherwise  your oh so evangelical Clerks would also be refusing to marry divorced people. While Jesus never had anything at all to say about homosexuality, he spoke explicitly about divorce, and he was, as we southerner’s like to say, “agin it.” Since I don’t see your Clerks asking for accommodations relative to marrying divorcees, then we can be certain this is not about a biblical interpretation of marriage rights.

Now I understand that Florida law doesn’t require you to provide solemnization ceremonies, and as with any government agency you are free to start or stop providing un-mandated services any time, but the blatant display of bigotry on the part of you and your staff is, even by Florida standards, breathtaking.

Your actions remind of some local governments in the south during the civil rights era, when courts determined that African-American children had the same right to use the municipal pool as white children, some cities just filled in the pool, rather than accept equal rights. This is what you are doing, and this is how history will judge you.

The religious freedoms of you and your clerks are not being violated by performing same-sex marriages, just as they are not violated when performing marriages for divorcees or multi-racial couples. They still have the right to hate gay people. They have the right to go to any church this Sunday morning, and pray to any god they choose, and say whatever prayer they want. Please don’t justify what you are doing using Christianity of religion, just admit you and your clerks are bigots, and move on. The truth shall set you free Ms. O’Neil.

But you Ma’am ought to be ashamed of yourself. You statement, “The problem is we can’t discriminate,” is beyond hateful. It is disgusting coming from an elected official who swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution. I’m sorry to hear that you and your religious beliefs have a problem with no longer being able to discriminate. It must be a horrible life you lead now that you no longer get to.

As if Florida were not already a joke, you just decide to pile on to the rampant stupidity that permeates Florida government.

Sincerely yours,

UPDATED: January 9, 2015 — I was surprised to receive a telephone call from Ms. O’Neil Monday after, and had a long discussion about the topic. I believe she was honest and genuine in her concern, and I appreciate the effort she made. Click here to read more details about the conversation.


  1. Tampa Bay Times, “As gay marriage approaches, several counties’ clerks opt out of wedding ceremonies,” Friday, January 2, 2015 

Jul 022014
 

An image of the U.S. Constitution and gavelYou’re likely aware that a number of state laws and constitutional amendments limiting the right so LGBT people to marry, have recently been found to be unconstitutional. The anti-equality pundits then issue their (now pretty standard) press releases denouncing the ruling, and explaining how the judge “found” a non-existent “right to gay marriage” in the U.S. Constitution. Today, on NRP’s Fresh Air program, host Terry Gross  kept referring the Supreme Court “finding a right” to marriage in the Constitution. I’m here to theorize that one does NOT go to the Constitution to find a right.

This is a topic I’ve had on my mind for some time, and today’s interview with Adam Liptak by Terry Gross (who I am starting to like less and less for many reasons) finally pushed me to write this short piece. Gross was asking about whether the Supreme Court would take up the gay marriage issue next year, and kept wondering if they would “find a right to gay marriage in the Constitution.” Let me put in the standard disclaimer…I’m not a lawyer; I’m not a Judge; I’m not a Constitutional Scholar; I didn’t even stay at a Holiday Inn last night; but I did take Junior High Civics. Continue reading »

So Stupid It Hurts-Blaming the Gays

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Apr 022013
 
Georgia COP Chairwoman Sue Everhart

Georgia COP Chairwoman Sue Everhart

Georgia’s reigning Ms Helmet Hair and GOP Chairwoman, Sue Everhart, called it correctly when she recently told the Marietta Daily Journal, “Lord, I’m going to get in trouble over this, but it is not natural for two women or two men to be married.” She wasn’t kidding, because her big concern surrounding the possibility the Supreme Court might find the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) unconstitutional seemed to be less about how icky she finds gay people, and more about the possibility of…gasp…marriage fraud.

According to this poor deranged woman:

“You may be as straight as an arrow, and you may have a friend that is as straight as an arrow. Say you had a great job with the government where you had this wonderful health plan. I mean, what would prohibit you from saying that you’re gay, and y’all get married and still live as separate, but you get all the benefits? I just see so much abuse in this it’s unreal. I believe a husband and a wife should be a man and a woman, the benefits should be for a man and a woman. There is no way that this is about equality. To me, it’s all about a free ride.”

So, let’s dissemble a bit here if I may. According to Everhart, there are never any sham straight-marriages for reasons of immigration status or even to get benefits, but two straight men would quickly get married to share benefits if DOMA is overturned. Not only that, it would proliferate. Everhart certainly has an elevated opinion of how great gay and lesbian marriages are.

I’ve worked at the same company of about 350 people for over 13 years now. We did have one case of someone committing fraud related to the relationship by claiming to be married for the purposes of  benefits, and guess what Sue, it was a straight couple.

And of course, no international incident, act of terrorism, or natural disaster can go un-blamed on we gayez. Frank Luter, President of the Southern Baptist Convention (that bastion of Christ-like love and acceptance), has decided that gay marriage is the reason North Korea’s Kim Jong Un is ramping up his anti-American rhetoric. Continue reading »

Dec 072012
 
This entry is part 4 of 14 in the series Gay Marriage

Brian Brown, President of leading gay hating group National Organization for Marriage, has, not surprisingly, done what he so often does and tweeted a blatant lie. According to Ms. Brown (and yes, I used the right title, we all know about people who claim to be straight but obsess over all things gay), a “Christian Vendor” in Maryland was forced to close down because of gay marriage.

Let’s just clarify Ms. Brown’s little white lie. First off, his tweet is false on its face. The business didn’t “close.” According to Matt Grubbs, owner of Discover Annapolis Tours, he has shut down the “wedding part” of his business on the advice of his attorney…not the whole business.

So why did his attorney recommend this. Well, it’s because Grubbs, who claims to be a “Christian,” didn’t want to abide by the public accommodation laws of Maryland, and treat everyone equally. He’d do weddings for straight people, but didn’t want to do them for gay people. So, to Grubbs and Ms. Brown, this is an infringement of his religious freedom rights. You know, just like some of those good Christian people ought to be able to open restaurants and not serve blacks because they have a religious objection to black people being free. Continue reading »

May 212012
 

Once again we see an example of God’s gentle loving people. What a shamed that this is supposed to be the face of Christianity, and people wonder why younger folks remain spiritual, but are leaving the church in droves. Well, here it is.See what hate hath wrought with Charles L. Worley of Providence Road Baptist Church in Maiden, North Carolina.

“I figured a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers,build a great, big, large fence — 150 or 100 mile long — put all the lesbians in there… Do the same thing for the queers and the homosexuals and have that fence electrified so they can’t get out… And you know what, in a few years, they’ll die.”
I guess some might see him as merciful, since his plan at least includes flying over planes to drop food. Of course he’s not the really the first to figure out this “solution.” Hitler beat him to the punch.

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